I’m curious on your opinion. Pure vs. Mutt?
I just would like to know what you think.
It seems to me that mixed breeds seem to get a bad rep. It seems people respect the pure breds more than they do the mutts.
I’ve seen people on here bash designer breeds as well.
But here’s my view. Pure breds, if you think about it. Aren’t totally pure. To get most of the pure breds they bred other mixes of dogs and just kept it consistant and decided to call it pure.
Take the labrador for example; they bred the greater Newfoundland with (some speculate) a St. John’s water dog. They kept breeding consistently to create what is now the labrador retriever-a purebred.
Turn back to the designer breeds (The puggle, the goldendoodle, labradoodle). Aren’t they basically doing the same thing? Breeding different breeds to make a new one and being consistent enough. I know they haven’t been around long enough so they can’t really be considered pure bred but I’ve just seen some bashing of the designer breeds.
What’s your take on this?
Let me also add that not all designer breeds are bred just as an accesory.
Puggles maybe.
But the labradoodles and goldendoodles-I used to work a kennels and they bred them for hunting purposes. Bred as really quite nice hunting dogs that don’t shed and for the loving loyal personality of the retrievers and poodles.
So isn’t their purpose similar to that of the pure labs?
Thanks for the answers, guys.
By the way, I don’t work at that kennels anymore.
I would also like to say that I love all breeds. I’ve owned 2 rescued mutts (pointer mix and lab mix) and I also have a purebred lab (though we got him for free from a friend).
I don’t show dogs or hunt so I’m not willing to pay much to have one.
But thanks for your opinions!
Most ppl who love purebreds do so because they know what medical problems and how their characters and behaviors are going to be in a typical breed.
Mutts you don’t know what your getting and therefore it may be more difficult to diagnose or train the animal.
That being said I love both.
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July 7th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Mixed breeds are fine. It all depends on what you plan on doing with your pet. I have purebreds, because I participate in hunt tests, field trails and show. I enjoy doing this with my pets.
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July 7th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
You’re getting confused.
A purebred dog is not a mutt. A purebred dog has a history, a purpose and a CLOSED STUD BOOK. That means that the breed is established and no more mixed blood is going in.
A designer dog is a product of two different established breeds. A mix of a Yorkie and a Poodle doesn’t make a new breed, it makes a mix.
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July 7th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Mutt, I get a pet as a companion, or whom I can save thier lives. Mutts are living breathing creatures too who also need love
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July 7th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Most ppl who love purebreds do so because they know what medical problems and how their characters and behaviors are going to be in a typical breed.
Mutts you don’t know what your getting and therefore it may be more difficult to diagnose or train the animal.
That being said I love both.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090306055301AAXyfIz&r=w
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July 7th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
The tradition of combining breeds was to achieve a praticular "work" purpose. Designer dogs have no "purpose". Designer breeds are just a marketing ploy to get the lemmings of society to spend more money on an animal.
I have one pure bred Golden Retriever and one Rescue boy.
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July 7th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Because people treat designer breeds as accessories and only get them because they’re "cute" and "fashionable". They treat designer breeds as a trend.
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July 7th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
I think the main issue most have-at least in my opinion anyway, with the designer breeds, because people "create" these labradoodle "mutts" and that’s exactly what they are, and charge outrageous prices for them. So, they’re just in it for the money. And throw in, most of them are backyard breeders, again just in it for the money. The funny thing is, you can go to the pound and get a labradoodle that was an oops dog, and only costs you 50. or so.
Here’s an example, my mother in law bought a "labradoodle". She wanted one of the small versions though, not more then 20 lbs. The dog is now 70 lbs, after the breeder insisted the dog would remain small. So, the breeder had no idea what she was doing, nor did she care. Just saw the $$ signs. And, my MIL forked over about 1000. just to have that dog. To me, that’s completely insane money for a lab mix.
I look through some online sites, mainly LSN-like a craigslist, and there’s just loads and loads of those types of dogs for sale, and it’s obvious the people have no clue what they’re doing and have no business breeding anything, including children. I’m a fan of pound puppies. There’s a few pure bred dogs I’d love to have, but I won’t that much money for a dog when there’s so many sitting in shelters.
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July 7th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
they are both good. mutts are just as good as pure breeds.
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July 8th, 2010 at 12:17 am
Actually, it’s the PUREBREDS that get dissed the most. All the time I hear "they’re unhealthy, they’re stupid, they’re overbred, they’re mentally unstable" etc. NOT! I’ve had well-bred purebreds for 30 years, and they are NONE of those things.
As for the designer breeds vs. created purebreds – the Labrador was created over many generations, by design, to serve a purpose. The dogs that were best at doing the job were selected for breeding, and since form follows function they achieved a uniform look and style. This is different from "designer dog" breeding, where they simply throw two breeds together so as to produce something cute, that they can *CLAIM* is hypoallergenic or healthier (both lies), with a cutesy name that they can sell for big bucks.
As for "designer dogs" not having been around long enough to be established – "COCKAPOOS" have been around for at least 50 years – they still are not a breed, there is still no consistency, and the breeders who claim they are trying to get them recognized still don’t have a decent standard (basically says it has four legs and hair), or coherent breeding program to obtain certain traits, or even guidance as to which traits are desireable.
EDIT: So what made the "labradoodles" and "goldendoodles" better at their job than either labs, goldens or (if you want a non-shedding hunting dog) poodles?
I’ve groomed many "goldendoodles", that coat is totally impractical on a hunting dog.
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July 8th, 2010 at 12:56 am
mutts have less medical problems and live longer. pure breds are just pure breds. u want a pure bred or mutt, it all depends on the person. I have a pure bred and a mutt. I love them both but my mutt is 13 years old NEVER had to go to the doctor 4 her, shes never been sick, still runs around and plays. however, my little teacup yorkie, b/c of his breed has trachea issues, but i luv them both.
ps- i dont agree with those puggle,labradoodle. the breeders who do that remind me of hitler tryna mate dogs b/c of how they look to make the perfect pet. sickos
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July 8th, 2010 at 1:22 am
As for people breeding designer mutts, they aren’t all that careful with the breeding. They’ll breed any two dogs on legs. However, when making purebred dogs, there was a specific purpose in mind, and not just any dogs were bred. Anyway, people who sell mutts are in it for the money only(with the exception of shelters and rescues). So are a lot of people who sell purebred dogs. Those who show and title their dogs(in the show ring), are not in it for the moeny when they breed, as with all the expenses they incur, they may break even with the sale of puppies.
I have owned three mutts and two purebreds. Both of my purebreds were given to us. One was a 10 year old beagle that was previously rescued from a puppy mill. The other was given to us at four months old. My mutts were all rescued, but I would rescue purebreds as well.
Most people who use designer breed names on their dogs got their dogs from back yard breeders, or pet stores. Both are about equally bad.
http://stoppuppymills.org/ http://saynotopetstorepuppies.com/ http://millbusters.com/
Edit: As for mutts being healthier, that’s a misnomer. All of my dogs were and are equally healthy.
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July 8th, 2010 at 2:12 am
It is not the mutts we have a problem with it is the people who deliberately breed the mutts charging a hefty price for them as well. The ones who started the pure breeds of today did so with a purpose in mind and bred to create that purpose. The breeders today who are "creating" new breeds do so only for money and do not breed for any purpose. The laberdoodle was started for a purpose but when it was found not to serve that purpose the original breeders abandoned the attempt, new people took it up in order to make money.
Any "doodle" will shed unless it is bred with a dog that does not shed, we have a lot of golden doodles and labradoodles in our shelter given up do to the shedding issue. They do not breed true so no they are not even close to a breed.
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July 8th, 2010 at 2:53 am
All my dogs have been mixes except for my rat terrier, who has papers, but I didnt know that at the time I picked him out at a rescue group. I picked him for his temperament, not his breeding.
For me, purebred means nothing in a dog, but I had papered horses for years, and showed them, so I can understand why people would want a purebred dog.
I think most people are hostile toward designer dogs because the people who breed them have no concern for their health or well being, They are just out to make a (very large) buck, and are basically scamming people into thinking they have something they do not.
The people who started the current breeds were thoughtful breeders who had a genuine purpose in mind, and were concerned for the health of the dogs.
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July 8th, 2010 at 3:19 am
Any dog is valuable to his loving owner. (and vice vers)
Mutt or a pure bred.
It’s about dogs, not titles or breeds.
This board is full of shyt!
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July 8th, 2010 at 3:46 am
You’ve got a point in saying that most of our purebreds today started out as a mutt of some sort. But you have to remember that those breedings took place many, many years ago. And most weren’t bred to be lap dogs and pets, they were bred to crate dogs suited to certain jobs. "Designer" dogs are mutts that we don’t need. The people who breed them aren’t breeding dogs created for a purpose, they’re breeding mutts for money.
New dog breeds are still being developed today. But this is done by professional people who are breeding them for jobs. And they’re not sold to the public.
We have enough dog breeds. Mutts (and purebreds) are dying daily in animal shelters. Why would you go to someone breeding a mutt for money instead of getting one at an animal shelter? It makes no sense to me.
I have a mutt. She’s a beagle/dachshund mix, sometimes referred to as a "doxle". I love her, but it’s baffling why anyone would want to breed such a combination on purpose. She’s got a beagle nose, a dachshund’s need of attention, and it’s not a good combination. Mutts are fine, but do what I did: rescue.
Add: goldendoodles aren’t needed to hunt. We have perfectly find hunting dogs already. Why breed more? Also, they, in fact, do shed. Some might not. But goldens shed like crazy! People sell them saying they don’t shed when some may, in fact, shed just as much as a purebred golden.
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July 8th, 2010 at 4:15 am
Simple answer again There is nothing in the world wrong with a mutt. What is wrong is the Mutt dealers are selling mutts for Thousands of dollars. If you buy a mutt you get it from a shelter for thousands less
As for the age old question that all dogs are are mutts opinion. Purebred dogs date back to BC (before Christ) Any cross breed in them is so far in the past it does not count.
There breeding has been monitored and meticulously documented so that the breed is true(no crossbreeds) In order for the AKC to recognize a new breed as pure these histories are closing examined and meet all AKC guidelines. These dogs have been bred for a purpose.
So please tell me what purpose is a Chuggle or corkiranachedoodle, and how does the idiot breeding them justify the cost. The only purpose that they have is for the Puppy Miller to make money., and that is not on the AKCs list of what makes a pure bred dog.
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July 8th, 2010 at 5:01 am
i think the same thing but what they did was bred a better dog like basset hounds are bred to be low to the ground so they can pick up a scent better and their big ears help with smelling. all pure bred dogs were bred for a reason. i have two mini dachshunds and they are the best at getting into small places and sniffing something out and their bark wow that is awsome they scared my friend the first time she came to my house lol. that’s my opinion on pure vs. mixed dogs i love both but pure bred dogs are meant to do things
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July 8th, 2010 at 5:42 am
The origin of the labradoodle had nothing to do with hunting:
http://labradoodles.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/labradoodle-design-by-wally-conron/
Poodles are a retrieving breed, as are Golden Retrievers and Labradors. No need to crossbreed them for hunting purposes.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/poodle/history.cfm
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July 8th, 2010 at 5:53 am
My personal opinion, is I prefer purebreds. But I compete in conformation. But I don’t have anything against people that adopt mutts. I do have a problem with designer breeds because they are mutts with a fancy name. Kennels that breed them charge outrageous prices, and you can go to the shelters and probably find the same mix.
You do need to do a little more research though. There were 2 sizes of newfoundlands originally. Yhe greater and the lesser. It was the lesser newfoundland that eventually became the labrador. The newfoundland is what I have and I have done extensive research on them. The chesepeake bay retrevier is also a breed that is supposed to have descended from the newfie.
But just because a breed descended from another breed doesn’t make it a mutt. Just like me. I may have some German or french anscestry, but it doesn’t mean that I am german or french.
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July 8th, 2010 at 6:05 am
People who breed Labradoodles, Goldendoodles, Shmoodles, yorkimpops, etc etc etc are NOT breeding the best dogs possible.
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